'Barrina and I connected in 2022 through Invisible Walls, a literary exchange program between Australian and Korean poets, co-facilitated by Dan Disney and myself. Invisible Walls poets were chosen via a competitive selection process. From a large pool of submissions, Barrina was one of twelve successful applicants. The striking language, imagery, and emotion of her poetry stood out immediately. Through working on the project itself, I came to know Barrina as not only a brilliant poet, but a deeply thoughtful, kind, and giving person, too. In late 2023, we met on Ngunawal and Ngambri Country (Queanbeyan, NSW) for a coffee and chat. Below is an edited transcript of our exchange.' (Introduction)